O’Leary stated that while he has “tremendous respect” for the congresswoman, she “embodies the American nightmare” because “she doesn’t believe people should succeed in wealth.”
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When Phillip pointed out that Ocasio-Cortez’s journey from bartender to congresswoman exemplifies the American dream, O’Leary insisted that she “does not support capitalism.” Phillip countered that many Americans don’t view extreme wealth as their primary aspiration, noting, “There are many Americans for whom just being filthy rich is not the American dream.”
The clash occurs amid research showing Americans are increasingly divided on whether the American dream remains achievable. According to Pew Research, 68% of Americans aged 65 and older believe the American dream is attainable, compared to just 42% of people under 50. Similar disparities exist across income levels, with 64% of higher-income Americans viewing the dream as possible versus only 39% of lower-income Americans.
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